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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.10 01:00:00 -
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hmmm, i would invest if only i could sort this bond out from the many others being funded/posted daily. If only there was a complex system we could apply to it to make it possible to tell the difference. 
Would be quicker to grind a new rep under an alt & get the funding that way (thus making this scam harder to spot) or your left with bumping this thread & hope some noob doesn't know who Goons are & what they do best, and/or doesnt do their homework before handing isk out.
Suggest making an alt, create a corp with it using the words "investment/consulting" in it. make 2-3 months worth of posts with nice advice & lots of ":)", advertise a secured loan, then a partially secured one & so on.
Goons aside, Taking public isk & re-investing it in someone else's bond is stupid & a huge gamble, you are letting your reputation/oublic isk be in the hands of the ppl that you are investing in all the while not letting the public "know" anything about the isk being re-invested, far too many layers in that cake son.
so on both levels, people would be pants on head stupid to invest in this "re-investment bonds"
p.s. Posting the NEISIN number would raise the creditibilty of the scam, remember this for next time
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.10 02:54:00 -
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Re-investing public isk into other investments is still fundamentally, a big no-no with me, reasons in my first response ^^
The rest was a Troll at you/NEISIN. which i must say, was handled by you very well, i can't even reply with "umad" or "butthurt"
Are you a wizard.jpg
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.11 08:57:00 -
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 Originally by: corestwo
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Fred Freedom
... if he's not stealing at least 50b he's doing it wrong.
You are not helping him with statements like that.
His point was, in part, that 5b is chump change. Why walk off with that? The relatively small size of the offering offers a measure of security all to itself.
If 5b is chump change & the goons are awash with money, then begs the question, why ask MD for isk? wouldn't it be more logical to ask simply your "rich" alliance. thus providing no security at all.
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.11 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Misty McGinnity on 11/02/2011 09:33:31
Originally by: Cyaxares II
Edited by: Cyaxares II on 11/02/2011 09:21:15
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
If 5b is chump change & the goons are awash with money, then begs the question, why ask MD for isk? wouldn't it be more logical to ask simply your "rich" alliance.
you didn't read the OP at all, did you?
in MD Kalrand can raise money at < 5%/month.
within Goonswarm you (apparently) have to offer at least 10%/month to get investment.
Kalrand's business plan is to borrow money at < 7%/month on MD and invest it at 10%/month in goonswarm-exclusive offerings.
So you want him to borrow money at 10%/month and reinvest it at 10%/month. I think you are a true business genius.
Did you read the thread? lmfao
Goons offer 5-10% secured im sure a guy like Kal can get a lower rate% seeing as its chump change to some of them (see above), OP also claims to have 11b in assets. seems like alot of work for something that he can just as easily attain "in-house"
is that clear enough for you champ? or do i need to add in a complex 12 digit code?
ITT: buttsore white knights defend goons.
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.11 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Misty McGinnity on 11/02/2011 10:23:00
Originally by: Alice Celadon
Goons actually fund the exuberant noobs bouncing around asking for isk rather than laughing at them like we do.
You have shed no light on the topic, please can all the white knights save their speeches, your making me look good here
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.11 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby
All this before you consider the trolling value of the whole exercise.
Admit it you had fun making your portrait. ( i lol'd)
Originally by: Kalrand
tl;dr
I'm selling bonds that I'm going to be reinvesting in Goonswarm investments that you people just don't have access to. Each bond is worth 100 Million isk, and will receive an interest payment once a month. Probably on or about the 15th of every month. I can call your bond at any time. You'll get paid the interest for that month in full if I do.
now re-read this, despite Kal being an MD regular, who in their right mind would give this person money?
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.14 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
2) 2 Billion in a loan to a Goon (Goon K) @ 10%/month interest, 1 month duration.
3) 2.5 Billion in a loan to a Goon (Goon R) @ 10%/month interest, 4 month duration.
Questions?
collateral?
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.14 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
Originally by: Misty McGinnity
Originally by: Kalrand
2) 2 Billion in a loan to a Goon (Goon K) @ 10%/month interest, 1 month duration.
3) 2.5 Billion in a loan to a Goon (Goon R) @ 10%/month interest, 4 month duration.
Questions?
collateral?
Undisclosed. Next question?
what have you got to hide? being very "opaque" i must say, to use your own words
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.14 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kalrand
This bond has a personal guarantee that if those loans default I'll cover the bond.
What they put up as collateral isn't germane to investors.
safe to assume no collateral. 
Although i don't believe in internet guarantees, you claim to be taking all the risk? we'll see if this "personal guarantee" holds any water. seems like alot of hassle for a measly sum
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Misty McGinnity
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Posted - 2011.02.14 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Krythas
Why are you repeating things that us investors already know ?
As an investor I am happy to gamble my Internet Space Bucks on the past 1200 or so posts I've read on Kalrands posting history alone with the full understanding that it may vanish in a pile of smoke.
Its a risk I've personally been willing to take for my own reasons. And unless you are willing to invest yourself, anything you have to say on this investment/gamble/throwing money away venture is pretty much moot.
cool, why aren't you rushing towards his 2nd bond? surely your reasons, risk assessment are sound enough to realize that rapidly expanding a bond (or creating a new one) raises no red flags at all.
Oh and theres always his 1200 posts history, surely that means he is legit.
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